The Science of the Deal with Matt King

  • What is your personal mission statement?

  • What is your investment mission statement?

  • What is your someday goal?

  • What is your lifestyle goal?

  • What are your family goals?

  • Someday goal - is it a number or is it creating jobs, millionaires, or lives changed

  • When a deal is brought to you, you’re default should be a no. Be a really fast no and a really slow yes.

  • In life your word is everything, however for investing you can and should change your mind

  • If you’re in the game, you’ll lose every so often. That is expected.

  • Leverage for deals

    • System for finding more deals

    • System for analyzing deals

    • System for hiring deal finders and analyzers

  • The wrong leverage will typically contract your wealth more than a good deal

  • A limited partnership investment still requires your attention and due diligence

  • Collective knowledge is power, you can do more with others than individually even when it comes to investment decisions

  • Life always boils down to a decision. Do you want to be wealthy or not? David Osborn

  • Create a DDQ for your investment process - Due Diligence Questionnaire

  • Deals have a momentum to it. If they’re constantly raising money for it, it is like an overcooked piece of steak, it likely won’t taste good

  • If theres little competition on the front end, there might be little interest on the backend

  • Vet the operator before the deal. Vet the operator harder than the deal

    • Skin in the game

    • How are they compensated

    • What is their track record

  • How much is the operator getting paid for the raise?

  • An operator’s selfishness can be aligned for you to win along side them

  • Ask every wholesaler - send me the original contract. I know you’re making money, but I want to know. If you’re hiding a contract, you’re making way to much money

  • An operators desperation for your invested dollar can show their hand

  • What amount of friction do you encounter when asking about due diligence?

  • Operators contribution of equity is typically deferral of acquisition fees + asset management fees because it is tax advantaged

  • David Osborn rarely invests as an LP in real estate operators because his family office operates and is an expert in this already

  • Create your Value Matrix. Rate the deal to your criteria

    • Cash flow

    • Appreciation

    • Tax savings

    • Long-term return

    • Risk management

  • Why investing as an LP makes sense

    • Diversification of investments

    • Leverage time, attention and knowledge

  • Why it doesn’t make sense investing as an LP

    • Unknown time horizon

    • Alignment of goals

    • Lack of liquidity

    • Lack of control

    • Limited transparency

  • Negotiating LP Positions

    • Function of the size of investment dictates terms

    • Experience of GP

  • What are your strengths, skills and connections

  • Are you investing for cashflow, networth or depreciation?

    • Invest for cashflow until cashflow needs are met

    • Then invest in higher risk properties

  • A private jet is a time machine and also a bonfire for your money.

  • Find the engine and supply the fuel

  • Play the game and see what they are willing to agree to in terms of changing the deal

  • There are many narratives that the herd toss around you shouldn’t fall prey to

    • Cash is trash, keep up with inflation

    • FOMO

    • Opportunity zones

  • A shitty deal is a shitty deal

  • Most GP and sponsors are salesmen, they will stroke your ego.

    • Ask why they’re interested in your capital versus anyone else

  • If you are a personal guarantee for a ‘bad boy’ a nonrecourse loan can become recourse

  • Ask who is personally guaranteeing the loan

  • DSCR, Cap rate assumptions, guarantor

  • Banks will go after the biggest guarantee

  • Control of the deal = control the fate and outcome. Not working the job, its creating the option to fire you if you fail at your role

  • Moneyball - team built on getting on base, not home runs. This market is one to find base hits

  • Diversification can also backfire - a top investor has 250+ LP positions. He would be WAY better if he just invested in multifamily (what he knows) and pay WAY less taxes

  • The small investments that become setbacks, set you back way more than keeping things simple

  • Diversification - when the market moves, do assets move in separate directions? If not, you’re not diversified.

  • Financial Analysis

    • Cash on Cash Return (COC) = (Annual pretax cash flow/ cash invested)

      • Benefits - Simple easy to calculate, allows comparison across deals, highlights value of leverage

      • Challenges - Only focuses on one aspect of gain, time value of money, relies on real cash flows that are always subject to change

    • Internal Rate of Return (IRR) = the discount rate that makes the NPV of all cash flows equal to zero

      • Benefits - it measures cash flows when they happen and leverages NPV, shows present value of future returns

      • Challenges - it’s based on assumptions that you make, if future cash flows change, IRR will change

    • Cap Rate = (Net operating income / current market value)

      • Benefits - allows comparison across deals, you can make decisions with it, easy to calculate

      • Challenges -it assumes you have estimated income correctly, it assumes the market rate will be steady, higher cap rates could be riskier

    • Multiple On Invested Capital (MOIC) = (Total cash distributions / total equity invested)

      • Benefits - Pairs well with IRR, it takes total cash into account, ensures deal is net positive

      • Challenges - doesn’t take NPV into account, doesn’t take risk into account, doesn’t take timeframe into account

  • Deal Split Numbers

    • Preferred Return - a minimum return investors get before operators are paid. Not a guaranteed return

    • Waterfall - The division of profits

    • Return Hurdle - the rate of return that must be achieved to reach the next level of the waterfall

  • Waterfall related terms

    • Lookback provision - if the LP doesn’t receive a predetermined rate of return, the operator has to return profits

    • Catch-up provision - The investor gets 100% of profits until the predetermined rate of return is hit

    • Promote - A disproportionate share of cash flow the operator gets for achieving return hurdles

  • The goal of an investment is not to defer deduct taxes, it is to make a good return. Taxes exist if you make a profit

  • Asset management fees can be on called or committed capital?

  • Mainstream syndicators/fund managers deals are catered to novice investors

  • Cap rate is return on money without leverage

  • Sidecar - opportunity to invest in something a fund you are apart of has invested in

  • Fund of funds - diversification, more leverage to get into investments otherwise impossible.

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